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[tw5] [TW5] Announcing Single Executable version using Bob 1.0.2 Sourdough Biscuits
Jed Carty
2018-06-24 13:38:10 UTC
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I just uploaded the new versions of Bob as a single executable tiddlywiki.
The updates to Bob as a plugin have actually been up for about 3 weeks but
I forgot to announce it.

The single executable version is
here https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/tag/1.0.2

The plugin version is here https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob

Let me know if you run into any bugs.

Here is the changelog for version 1.0.2:

- Fixed/Updated documentation
- for the getSetting macro (fixed typo)
- for the buildHTMLWiki message (added excludeList info)
- fixed the message about shutting down the server in the server
actions tab
- Fixed a bug where output single file html wikis would always be
called `index.html`
- Added an optional excludeFilter attribute to the buildHTMLWiki message
that lists tiddlers that shouldn't be added to the exported wiki.
- Added the option to set the location of external editions using the
editionsPath setting.
- This shouldn't affect the environment variable method of setting the
location.
- Fixed a bug that would let the server try and load a wiki that didn't
exist
- Updated instructions to point to TiddlyWiki version 5.1.17
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@TiddlyTweeter
2018-06-25 11:22:31 UTC
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Post by Jed Carty
- Fixed a bug where output single file html wikis would always be
called `index.html`
Thanks! Its working well now with bespoke names.
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@TiddlyTweeter
2018-06-25 11:35:18 UTC
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Dear Bob & Jed

There a few things I'd to check to make sure I have understood them right
...

Am I right that in...

<$action-websocketmessage $type='buildHTMLWiki' outputFolder= ....

... that "outputFolder=" needs an address relative to where the wiki is
located. I.e. "$type='buildHTMLWiki'" runs in the directory of the wiki
concerned?

Whilst...

<$action-websocketmessage $type=runScript

Always run from the directory where the executable is located. I.e. when
using addresses in "$type=runScript" paths should be relative to that?
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Ed
2018-06-25 13:54:19 UTC
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Hi Jed,

Am trying out latest version of Bob. Problem.
I have made a tiddler and did the following
1. I edited it: Entered some more text.
2. Changed the title
3. Saved it

Now I have two tiddlers, the old one AND the new one.
If I delete the first version the older version persists.
I have to close down everything to get rid of it, or so it seems.
and starts via the .exe file again.
Any ideas?
TschÌß, Ed
= = = = = =
.
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Post by Jed Carty
I just uploaded the new versions of Bob as a single executable tiddlywiki.
The updates to Bob as a plugin have actually been up for about 3 weeks but
I forgot to announce it.
The single executable version is here
https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/tag/1.0.2
The plugin version is here https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
Let me know if you run into any bugs.
- Fixed/Updated documentation
- for the getSetting macro (fixed typo)
- for the buildHTMLWiki message (added excludeList info)
- fixed the message about shutting down the server in the server
actions tab
- Fixed a bug where output single file html wikis would always be
called `index.html`
- Added an optional excludeFilter attribute to the buildHTMLWiki message
that lists tiddlers that shouldn't be added to the exported wiki.
- Added the option to set the location of external editions using the
editionsPath setting.
- This shouldn't affect the environment variable method of setting the
location.
- Fixed a bug that would let the server try and load a wiki that didn't
exist
- Updated instructions to point to TiddlyWiki version 5.1.17
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@TiddlyTweeter
2018-06-25 15:31:41 UTC
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Testing extra editions path ...

I set "editionsPath" in Manual Settings to ...

"editionsPath":".\tpl\"

In the ".\tpl\" directory I added the sub-directory "awsAgain" that is a
simple clone of the "aws" edition created through Available Wikis.

After reloading Bob "awsAgain" correctly appears on the "Select Wiki
Edition" menu.

I click "Make Wiki" and get the long error message below, which says
something like its 'not compiled into the executable.'

FYI I undid "editionsPath" and tried running Bob using the Environment
Variable instead. Same issue arose.

Wikis Folder Exists
WebSocket error, probably closed connection: { Error: Directory
'C:\**\SingleExecutable\editions\awsAgain' was not
included into executable at compilation stage. Please recompile adding it
as asset or script.
at error_ENOENT (pkg/prelude/bootstrap.js:422:17)
at readdirFromSnapshot (pkg/prelude/bootstrap.js:762:29)
at Object.fs.readdirSync (pkg/prelude/bootstrap.js:782:12)
at specialCopy ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/NodeMessageHandlers.js:598:29)
at Object.$tw.nodeMessageHandlers.createNewWiki ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/
NodeMessageHandlers.js:651:11)
at WebSocket.incoming ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/NodeWebSocketsSetup.js:182
:57)
at WebSocket.emit (events.js:159:13)
at Receiver._receiver.onmessage ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/WS/WebSocket.js:
156:47)
at Receiver.dataMessage ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/WS/Receiver.js:402:14)
at Receiver.getData ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/WS/Receiver.js:343:12)
errno: -4058,
code: 'ENOENT',
path: 'C:\\snapshot\\SingleExecutable\\editions\\awsAgain',
pkg: true }
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Jed Carty
2018-06-26 09:19:32 UTC
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Ed,

Were you editing the tiddler inside tiddlywiki? I have seen this happen
sometimes when changing the title on the file system but I haven't tracked
it down yet. If you are having this bug when editing inside the wiki than
that is new. Either way I am going to have to put aside some time this
evening to try and track it down.

TiddlyTweeter,

That looks like an oversight on my part. I need to look at how the search
path is created for the single executable version. And I need to set up a
better test suite to include tests on the single executable. Hopefully this
is an easy thing to fix but I am not certain when I will have time to look
into it.
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'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
2018-07-01 04:09:47 UTC
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Hi Jed,

I believe this line in the documentation:

cp -r TiddlyWiki5/plugins/OokTech/Bob/BobWiki TiddlyWiki5/Wikis/BobWiki/

Is incorrect. But seems to work with:

cp -r TWBob/plugins/OokTech/Bob/MultiUserWiki TWBob/Wikis/BobWiki/

In another thread, you say that this is just TiddlyWiki with a plugin. If
so, would it be possible to set up Bob on a node implementation just by
dragging and dropping the plugin into the instance? Or would there be other
steps?

Thanks!
-- Mark
Post by Jed Carty
I just uploaded the new versions of Bob as a single executable tiddlywiki.
The updates to Bob as a plugin have actually been up for about 3 weeks but
I forgot to announce it.
The single executable version is here
https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/tag/1.0.2
The plugin version is here https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
Let me know if you run into any bugs.
- Fixed/Updated documentation
- for the getSetting macro (fixed typo)
- for the buildHTMLWiki message (added excludeList info)
- fixed the message about shutting down the server in the server
actions tab
- Fixed a bug where output single file html wikis would always be
called `index.html`
- Added an optional excludeFilter attribute to the buildHTMLWiki message
that lists tiddlers that shouldn't be added to the exported wiki.
- Added the option to set the location of external editions using the
editionsPath setting.
- This shouldn't affect the environment variable method of setting the
location.
- Fixed a bug that would let the server try and load a wiki that didn't
exist
- Updated instructions to point to TiddlyWiki version 5.1.17
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Jed Carty
2018-07-01 20:51:30 UTC
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I haven't tried dragging and dropping the packaged plugin into a node wiki.
I don't see any reason it wouldn't work. After you install the plugin you
would still have to start the server using the wsserver command instead of
the normal server one but there isn't any reason it wouldn't work. I
haven't tested it because so far the only times I have the packaged plugin
are when I am running Bob and you only need one wiki running it so it never
came up.

And thank you for pointing out the error! It looks like I missed a spot
when I changed the name to Bob. I will hopefully be somewhere I can fix
that soon.
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'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
2018-07-02 04:53:50 UTC
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It just seems like, for most people, dragging and dropping a plugin would
be much more preferable than the current 5 step, complicated process --
especially for updates.

Thanks,
-- Mark
Post by Jed Carty
I haven't tried dragging and dropping the packaged plugin into a node
wiki. I don't see any reason it wouldn't work. After you install the plugin
you would still have to start the server using the wsserver command instead
of the normal server one but there isn't any reason it wouldn't work. I
haven't tested it because so far the only times I have the packaged plugin
are when I am running Bob and you only need one wiki running it so it never
came up.
And thank you for pointing out the error! It looks like I missed a spot
when I changed the name to Bob. I will hopefully be somewhere I can fix
that soon.
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'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
2018-07-04 18:03:16 UTC
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Just ran a test. Created the plugin for 1.0.3. Exported it. Loaded it into
a node running 5.1.18-prerelease. Ran it a couple different ways, but
running with -wsserver crashed it.

There's a question about how to launch it. If you use a standard node
install, then clearly there is no " Wikis/BobWiki" directory.

It seems like there's some configuration that needs to happen in addition
to the plugin.

-- Mark
Post by 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
It just seems like, for most people, dragging and dropping a plugin would
be much more preferable than the current 5 step, complicated process --
especially for updates.
Thanks,
-- Mark
Post by Jed Carty
I haven't tried dragging and dropping the packaged plugin into a node
wiki. I don't see any reason it wouldn't work. After you install the plugin
you would still have to start the server using the wsserver command instead
of the normal server one but there isn't any reason it wouldn't work. I
haven't tested it because so far the only times I have the packaged plugin
are when I am running Bob and you only need one wiki running it so it never
came up.
And thank you for pointing out the error! It looks like I missed a spot
when I changed the name to Bob. I will hopefully be somewhere I can fix
that soon.
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Jed Carty
2018-07-01 21:03:11 UTC
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Ed,

It turns out that the error was a rather serious bug that somehow crept in.
I am still not sure how it wasn't a problem before but I fixed it and I am
trying to upload the fix to GitHub. It should be fixed in the plugin repo
but my inconsistent internet access is giving me trouble uploading the
single file versions.
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@TiddlyTweeter
2018-07-04 08:12:37 UTC
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Dear Jed & Bob

Is there a way to define in settings the base directory for the slave
wikis? Such that, in "Available Wikis" I can use a path default other than
".Wikis\". I'd really like to be able to use...

..\..\pages\tw\bob\

...without having to type it. I couldn't figure out how to do that for the
"Available Wikis" Tiddler.

FYI, why I want the wikis separate is I like to keep "documents" out of
"program" folders.

Best wishes
Josiah
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@TiddlyTweeter
2018-07-04 08:28:21 UTC
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Dear Bob

For my personal use of your skills I quite like the image of Bob The
Builder as a mascot ...






Regards
@TiddlyTweeter
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Jed Carty
2018-07-04 08:53:09 UTC
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TiddlyTweeter,

The new update v 1.0.3 lets you set the base paths used for wikis and
plugins and they can be different. The plugin version is up but I keep
forgetting to make the single executable versions to upload while I am at
work. I will try and remember for tomorrow.
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@TiddlyTweeter
2018-07-04 08:59:29 UTC
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Thank you!

J

I keep forgetting to make the single executable versions to upload while I
am at work. I will try and remember for tomorrow.
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Jed Carty
2018-07-04 18:25:19 UTC
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If you have a wiki that you have installed the plugin into than it
shouldn't need a Wikis/BobWiki directory, it should point to the one you
installed the plugin into.
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Jed Carty
2018-07-04 18:37:00 UTC
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I am trying to find anywhere that would have the path Wikis/BobWiki
hardcoded and I can't find anything that would use it.

The command to start the wiki is the same as the node version but with
--wsserver in place of --server like this:

node tiddlywiki.js path/to/wiki --wsserver

is that what you are using?
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'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
2018-07-04 19:42:07 UTC
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Had to launch the regular way in order to drag/drop the plugin in. Verified
it's in there.

Then Launched with tiddlywiki editions/tw5.com-server --wsserver

-- Mark


Websockets listening on 8081
Serving on 127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)
syncer-server-WebsocketAdaptor: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList

$:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/ServerSide.js:125
var subWikiInfo = $tw.Bob.loadWikiTiddlers(resolvedIncludedWikiPath
,{
^
TypeError: $tw.Bob.loadWikiTiddlers is not a function
at $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/ServerSide.js:125:35
at $tw.utils.each (C:\Users\Mark\github\TiddlyWiki5\boot\boot.js:69:12)
at Object.ServerSide.loadWikiTiddlers ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/ServerSide
.js:119:15)
at Object.ServerSide.loadWiki ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/ServerSide.js:76:
33)
at Object.handler ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/commands/wsserver.js:217:24)
at SimpleServer.requestHandler ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/commands/wsserver
.js:153:15)
at emitTwo (events.js:106:13)
at Server.emit (events.js:191:7)
at HTTPParser.parserOnIncoming [as onIncoming] (_http_server.js:546:12)
at HTTPParser.parserOnHeadersComplete (_http_common.js:99:23)
Post by Jed Carty
I am trying to find anywhere that would have the path Wikis/BobWiki
hardcoded and I can't find anything that would use it.
The command to start the wiki is the same as the node version but with
node tiddlywiki.js path/to/wiki --wsserver
is that what you are using?
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Jed Carty
2018-07-04 20:08:56 UTC
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Oh, Bob doesn't work with the tw5.com editions. I think because they have
an includeWiki entry and some part of that doesn't play well with Bob. I
noticed that the other day but I haven't had a chance to determine why.
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'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
2018-07-04 22:55:49 UTC
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Ok. It appears to work with the server edition.

-- Mark
Post by Jed Carty
Oh, Bob doesn't work with the tw5.com editions. I think because they have
an includeWiki entry and some part of that doesn't play well with Bob. I
noticed that the other day but I haven't had a chance to determine why.
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@TiddlyTweeter
2018-07-05 13:06:38 UTC
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This is a periodic "shout-out" about the Brilliance Of Bob ... I, a
relative idiot, got Bob to do loads of things quickly and easily ... Here
is a shot of a small part of what I use Bob for ...
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Alex Hough
2018-07-05 13:25:43 UTC
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Hi Jed,

some dunmb questions:


1) does this require a node server connected to the internet
2) can we have go with a test version

looks really good on the face of it, I need to spend more time on
processing the detail. Seeing what it does would help me.


Alex
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Jed Carty
2018-07-05 13:41:44 UTC
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Alex,

If you use the single executable version than it doesn't require anything
other than a computer running windows, linux or osx. It doesn't require a
tiddlywiki or node install, everything is packed in the one executable.

Neither the single executable version nor the plugin version require
internet access.

I haven't done much testing but I think that it can run on node versions
newer than 4.

I run it for myself on a raspberry pi 3 and have about 10 wikis that I use
consistently and it has no trouble with any of it. You can also just have
it running on the computer you use and it will let you use multiple wikis
and not have to worry about if you have the same wiki open in multiple tabs
or browsers. And you can create new wikis from inside the main wiki.

It takes a bit of configuration to get some of the features working the way
you would want, like the static file server for local images and media and
running scripts from the wiki.
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2018-07-05 15:07:27 UTC
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Ciao Alex

Footnote to Jed.

Its currently not possible to live demo Bob on the web securely. It makes
it a bit more difficult than usual to grasp what it can do. My screenshot
was a tiny part of it. The outstanding features for me are...

(1) local networkable;
(2) proper multi-user (i.e. with aware "locking");
(3) direct access to the OS to run external programs that can also change
the content of wikis, even running (I'm testing this. So far I had no
issues at all.)

If you read the previous threads you should, hopefully, be able to get a
better overview of it ...

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/bob%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/cQRhkfhvbVk/PxbhggXNAwAJ

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/m85IYlxjQss%5B76-100%5D

Josiah, x
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Ste Wilson
2018-07-14 20:25:24 UTC
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I finally got around to trying this.
Ssh'd into my pi 3, wget-ed the link to the arm7 version.
chmod +x tiddlyArmV7
And then ./tiddlyArmV7

The following is what happened...

***@raspberrypithree:~/bob $ sudo ./tiddlyArmV7.1
NodeSettings - Parsed raw settings.
Websockets listening on 8081
Serving on 127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)
events.js:136
throw er; // Unhandled 'error' event
^

Error: spawn xdg-open ENOENT
at _errnoException (util.js:1031:13)
at Process.ChildProcess._handle.onexit (internal/child_process.js:201:19)
at onErrorNT (internal/child_process.js:389:16)
at _combinedTickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:138:11)
at process._tickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:180:9)

Help?
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Michael Z.
2018-07-14 23:20:42 UTC
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You probably don't have xdg-open installed. Try

$ which xdg-open

to see if it is there.

Otherwise you can install it with

sudo apt-get install xdg-utils

It is used to open standard applications on the desktop.
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Jed Carty
2018-07-15 08:57:20 UTC
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By default the single executable version tries to open up the systems
default browser when it starts, which is probably causes problems if you
are running it headless. Try setting the 'suppressBrowser' property to true
in settings.json.
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