Hello Mat, first of all, thank you for your valuable feedback. You have a
very good eye for detail and usually spot ideas and issues that no one else
does, so thanks in advance.
it is funny how other peoples projects can just be so much more difficult
Things are usually clear for the ones who envision them, but it is hard to
translate that idea.
When using NoteSelf locally you don't have to save, because this is done
automatically. If wanting to save in cloud, you must still click save.
Normal local TW doesn't save automatically so one must click save both for
local and for cloud save.
Reading again your sentence to be able to answer you accordingly I just
realized about the source of your confusion (I think). The point is to not
store anything on the TW file, nothing, zero, and save everything on the
local pouch database, the sync adaptor takes care of that. If you have a
cloud configured for the currently selected database (you can have several
databases) you just have to login. Once you are logged in ,cloud sync will
happen automatically in background. A possible analogy could be a node wiki
that saves tiddlers to a dropbox folder and dropbox takes care of syncing
those files to dropbox servers and across devices.
This local autosave is of course good - but am I missing something? I
mean, its not THAT difficult to click save every now and then, so is there
more to it?
Admittedly my Win10 crashes even more often than FF these days so
auto-stored work would really be good on those occasions.
It is not only about autosave. It's about synchronization, having several
databases in one single TW, is about not having to download anything OR
downloading it if you want. Basically all what TW is but adding
synchronization to the mix.
The MAIN difference between storing a wiki online in tiddlyspot and using
NoteSelf is that you don't need to be online to use NoteSelf. You can
download NoteSelf to your computer, configure a remote server and work
totally offline. When you back online, all your data is synced to the
remote database. Then, in another computer you can just use the online
version of NoteSelf, configure the same remote server and get the same data
synced to that instance.
Currently I use NoteSelf on my work, and on my home I also use it but I
have two databases configured (in the same file) one that syncs with my
work DB and another that Syncs to my personal one, without mixing any data
or having several files.
NoteSelf arises from my need of being able to take small notes on my mobile
or tablet and have them available on my computer and the other way round.
Using dropbox for this task is not a good option because:
- Syncing an entire file of 5MB each time I take a small note is totally
overkilling. Specially on my phone and my limited data plan.
- When I take a note on my tablet it can take some time until I connect
it to a wifi network. On that time I may forget that I did a change on my
tablet, make a change on my computer and -BOM- you have a file conflict on
the best case, and loss of information in the worst.
- Keeping a wiki in sync across several devices, even using dropbox,
could be a nightmare.
When contrasting NoteSelf to Evernote I can see tremendous advantages with
NoteSelf, but those are more from native TW than NoteSelf - or?
As it's said on the page, I took the best of TW and added sync to the mix,
so yes, most of the advantages comes from TW. But, the idea is to provide
not just a TW edition, but a small ecosystem. I have plans to build an
android application, a chrome app and maybe an ad-hoc server for making
this easier for novice users.
Some of other advantages that are on the roadmap are:
- Synchronization of plugins. This means that each database (you can
understand it as NoteBooks) can have it's own set of plugins that will be
synced across your devices. And switching between databases means also
loading different plugins and customizations.
- Tiddlers revisions. This is happening right now, but there is no
interface to easily switch between revisions
Now, that said, I notice the FAQ question: "How can I sync multiple
devices?" - now *that* would be really cool, i.e if one didn't have to
I just realized that I didn't included this feature in the features list,
which is a tremendous error, specially because it is the MAIN focus of the
anything but NoteSelf was "riding on" the automatically synching that
browsers do if one is logged into ones own browser account. That would make
a kind of tiddly-intra-net between all ones own devices and that autosynchs
whenever one is online. *Very *useful!
That is indeed a good idea Mat, but I think that is extensions territory. I
have been investigating about it and (as usual) there are lots of
restrictions imposed by the browsers, and the APIs are only accessible to
Thank you very Much Mat, and hope you give NoteSelf a try, your feedback
would be very valuable.
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