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[tw5] Bob - very basic installation help needed
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JWHoneycutt
2018-11-23 19:46:19 UTC
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I am trying to install "Bob", (software) I had avoided because the name
does not connote anything to me.


- Multi-User support for using/editing the same wiki(s) simultaneously (don't
need)


- Multi-Wiki support - run it once and serve multiple wikis (I have so
many wikis that I spend too much time searching amongst them - hoping this
solves it)
- Two-way real-time syncing between the browser and file system (sounds
good)

To do use this go here (https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE) and download
the file for your system (BobLinux for linux, BobWin.exe for windows and
BobOSX for mac). Then run the file.


I downloaded "BobOSX.command" and moved it to my Dropbox folder with all my
other TW5.html files

When I try to execute it, I am told I do not have privileges, despite
confirming that myself (actually everyone as well) has Read and Write
permissions

[image: BobOSX.command_permissions.png] <about:invalid#zClosurez>[image:
BobOSX.png]
I am running MacOS Mojave 10.14.1 on a MacBook Air - is there a simple
thing I am overlooking?

jwhoneycutt
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'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
2018-11-23 21:42:18 UTC
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I don't use Mac, but I do use Linux, which is similar in some ways. What I
notice about your permissions is that you don't have execution permissions
for your Bob file. Possibly look up at how to set the executable right on
your file.

On Linux, what I would do is drop to a terminal box in the directory and
execute

chmod 744 BobOSX.command

But there's probably a GUI way to do it in Mac.

Good luck
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Post by JWHoneycutt
I am trying to install "Bob", (software) I had avoided because the name
does not connote anything to me.
- Multi-User support for using/editing the same wiki(s) simultaneously (don't
need)
- Multi-Wiki support - run it once and serve multiple wikis (I have so
many wikis that I spend too much time searching amongst them - hoping this
solves it)
- Two-way real-time syncing between the browser and file system (sounds
good)
To do use this go here (https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE) and
download the file for your system (BobLinux for linux, BobWin.exe for
windows and BobOSX for mac). Then run the file.
I downloaded "BobOSX.command" and moved it to my Dropbox folder with all
my other TW5.html files
When I try to execute it, I am told I do not have privileges, despite
confirming that myself (actually everyone as well) has Read and Write
permissions
[image: BobOSX.command_permissions.png][image: BobOSX.png]
I am running MacOS Mojave 10.14.1 on a MacBook Air - is there a simple
thing I am overlooking?
jwhoneycutt
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TonyM
2018-11-24 01:43:35 UTC
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jwhoneycutt,

I believe Bob does not serve single file Wikis. TiddlyServer will, but the
install is a little more complex and configuring the settings.json file to
point to your tiddlywiki folder a little fragile. You could import your
single file wikis into bob folder based wikis if you want, but I am not
sure what your expect bob to do for you. For me one value of bob is not so
much multi-user but multi-access, ie I can keep tiddlywikis closed because
if I open them more than once the change will be reflected in both
tabs/windows and I will not overwrite my own work.

I would suggest if you are happy to use FireFox or Chrome and only use
single file wikis you obtain the Timimi plugin and install that and your
Tiddlywiki files will all be savable when accessed on the file system from
either of these browsers. Use TiddleyServer, Bob or NodeJS if you want to
serve wikis over your LAN

On the other hand TiddlyDesktop (linux/mac not sure) is a good way to
access file and folder wikis and build your own "menu of wikis" from one
installed application.

I am not sure you will be able to "search" all your TiddlyWikis from Bob as
you imply. With Timimi you could use the Operating system search to find
wikis holding a string and then open them in the default browser. I prefer
to organise my wikis so I know which one to search for what, I have an
index/directory wiki to support this.

Regards
Tony
Post by JWHoneycutt
I am trying to install "Bob", (software) I had avoided because the name
does not connote anything to me.
- Multi-User support for using/editing the same wiki(s) simultaneously (don't
need)
- Multi-Wiki support - run it once and serve multiple wikis (I have so
many wikis that I spend too much time searching amongst them - hoping this
solves it)
- Two-way real-time syncing between the browser and file system (sounds
good)
To do use this go here (https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE) and
download the file for your system (BobLinux for linux, BobWin.exe for
windows and BobOSX for mac). Then run the file.
I downloaded "BobOSX.command" and moved it to my Dropbox folder with all
my other TW5.html files
When I try to execute it, I am told I do not have privileges, despite
confirming that myself (actually everyone as well) has Read and Write
permissions
[image: BobOSX.command_permissions.png][image: BobOSX.png]
I am running MacOS Mojave 10.14.1 on a MacBook Air - is there a simple
thing I am overlooking?
jwhoneycutt
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dcastonguay
2018-11-24 04:52:17 UTC
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In addition to what Mark said, you might have to give that file permissions
to execute.

If that BobOSX.command file is on your desktop, then you would do the
following:
chmod +x ~/Desktop/BobOSX.command
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Jed Carty
2018-11-24 08:51:14 UTC
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The chmod +x solution suggested by Mark and dcastonguay is correct, to my
knowledge there isn't a gui method for changing file permissions is osx. I
have not found any way to consistently set the execute permission so that
when you download the file it works without you having to set it.

And I got complaints about the name back when I tried to make it
descriptive so I gave up and just called it Bob.
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JWHoneycutt
2018-11-24 14:56:29 UTC
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@Jed
Thank you for creating Bob. BTW, I find just about everything you do with
TW5 fascinating. I have Bob up on my wifi network and will play with it to
see what advantages it provides for my use case.

@Mark S and dcastonguay
Thank you - I would have never found this solution without your input.
Running this command inside Terminal was a crucial bit of info.

@TonyM
I do use TiddlyDesktop on my mac (exclusively) and it works great - except
for the inability to know where the relevant tiddler is located among many
files. You mention "Timimi" - is there a reference you can provide to find
this plugin? Maybe inside a personal plugin library?

I appreciate all your support!

jwhoneycutt
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'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
2018-11-24 16:18:21 UTC
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Timimi

https://github.com/ibnishak/Timimi
Post by JWHoneycutt
@Jed
Thank you for creating Bob. BTW, I find just about everything you do with
TW5 fascinating. I have Bob up on my wifi network and will play with it to
see what advantages it provides for my use case.
@Mark S and dcastonguay
Thank you - I would have never found this solution without your input.
Running this command inside Terminal was a crucial bit of info.
@TonyM
I do use TiddlyDesktop on my mac (exclusively) and it works great - except
for the inability to know where the relevant tiddler is located among many
files. You mention "Timimi" - is there a reference you can provide to find
this plugin? Maybe inside a personal plugin library?
I appreciate all your support!
jwhoneycutt
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