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[tw] Bug report: Creating New Journal Tiddler deletes existing Journal Tiddler
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Michael Wiktowy
2017-10-10 14:58:42 UTC
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Greetings all,

Description:
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when
there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.

Method to reproduce:
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal entry
of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning

Expected Results:
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name
exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on
saving.

Thanks,
/Mike
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Mat
2017-10-10 15:10:37 UTC
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Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?

<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when
there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal entry
of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name
exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on
saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Rob Hoelz
2017-10-10 15:15:16 UTC
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It's already reported: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845

Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>

-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when
there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal entry
of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name
exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on
saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Michael Wiktowy
2017-10-10 15:27:34 UTC
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Thanks. That matches my problem and, while a related problem from 2009
turned up in a google search, this didn't.
I didn't see the details of a new-journal.tid workaround in that thread and
am hesitant to start poking around in the system tiddlers. Knowing about
the problem makes it easy to work around. I just didn't want it catching
new users with data loss.

/Mike
Post by Rob Hoelz
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when
there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal
entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name
exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on
saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Diego Mesa
2017-11-07 21:21:35 UTC
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Rob,

Could you suggest a fix?
Post by Rob Hoelz
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when
there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal
entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name
exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on
saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Alexander Smit
2017-11-28 21:15:18 UTC
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I'm not on Github.. I just figured the "New journal here"-button actually
does opens a journal tiddler allready created with a same date. However, in
that case it doesn't add the label of the 2nd tiddles it is opened from.
neither it autosaves on confirming.
Post by Rob Hoelz
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when
there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal
entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name
exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on
saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Jeremy Ruston
2017-11-28 23:23:14 UTC
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I think the problem in the original post is fixed in 5.1.15.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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I'm not on Github.. I just figured the "New journal here"-button actually does opens a journal tiddler allready created with a same date. However, in that case it doesn't add the label of the 2nd tiddles it is opened from. neither it autosaves on confirming.
Post by Rob Hoelz
It's already reported: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing, appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Diego Mesa
2017-11-28 23:48:23 UTC
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Hm I might be missing something silly, but I'm on 5.1.15 but I still see
this behavior.
Post by Jeremy Ruston
I think the problem in the original post is fixed in 5.1.15.
Best wishes
Jeremy
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I'm not on Github.. I just figured the "New journal here"-button actually
does opens a journal tiddler allready created with a same date. However, in
that case it doesn't add the label of the 2nd tiddles it is opened from.
neither it autosaves on confirming.
Post by Rob Hoelz
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when
there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal
entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name
exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on
saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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TonyM
2017-11-29 00:17:05 UTC
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Try a fresh Wiki perhaps,

I am not getting this behaviour on new Jounal, New Journal here or via the
below macro.

Subsequent clicks open an existing tiddler for edit and retaining the
orginal content

\define todayentry()
<$button tooltip="Create or Open Today entry">
{{$:/core/images/new-journal-button}}
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<<now YYYY-0MM-0DD>>
tags="Journal">>" />
\end


Regards
Tony
Post by Diego Mesa
Hm I might be missing something silly, but I'm on 5.1.15 but I still see
this behavior.
Post by Jeremy Ruston
I think the problem in the original post is fixed in 5.1.15.
Best wishes
Jeremy
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I'm not on Github.. I just figured the "New journal here"-button actually
does opens a journal tiddler allready created with a same date. However, in
that case it doesn't add the label of the 2nd tiddles it is opened from.
neither it autosaves on confirming.
Post by Rob Hoelz
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when
there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal
entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same
name exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup
on saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Diego Mesa
2017-11-29 00:51:30 UTC
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Hey Tony,

You're right - the problem is my Custom New Research Journal Button. I cant
track down whats wrong with it though attached are the two files I've
modified, based on tobias' tutorial.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
Post by TonyM
Try a fresh Wiki perhaps,
I am not getting this behaviour on new Jounal, New Journal here or via the
below macro.
Subsequent clicks open an existing tiddler for edit and retaining the
orginal content
\define todayentry()
<$button tooltip="Create or Open Today entry">
{{$:/core/images/new-journal-button}}
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<<now YYYY-0MM-0DD>>
tags="Journal">>" />
\end
Regards
Tony
Post by Diego Mesa
Hm I might be missing something silly, but I'm on 5.1.15 but I still see
this behavior.
Post by Jeremy Ruston
I think the problem in the original post is fixed in 5.1.15.
Best wishes
Jeremy
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I'm not on Github.. I just figured the "New journal here"-button
actually does opens a journal tiddler allready created with a same date.
However, in that case it doesn't add the label of the 2nd tiddles it is
opened from. neither it autosaves on confirming.
Post by Rob Hoelz
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button
when there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal
entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same
name exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup
on saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Yes, it was fixed. Just tested it with the standard 5.1.15 tiddlywiki.
Thank you.

/Mike
Post by Jeremy Ruston
I think the problem in the original post is fixed in 5.1.15.
Best wishes
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I'm not on Github.. I just figured the "New journal here"-button actually
does opens a journal tiddler allready created with a same date. However, in
that case it doesn't add the label of the 2nd tiddles it is opened from.
neither it autosaves on confirming.
Post by Rob Hoelz
It's already reported: https://github.com/Jermolene/T
iddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when
there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal
entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name
exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on
saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Hey all,

I figured out what my issue has been all along. This issue can be seen with
the default new journal button on tiddlywiki.com:

Steps to reproduce:
1. Go to tiddlywiki.com, and create a new journal entry (using the button,
or manually) and type in "Test journal entry text" and save.
2. Open the shadow tiddler: $:/config/NewJournal/Text and type: "overwrite
text" and save.
3. Press the new journal button again

Desired Result:
Pressing this button should open the already existing journal entry, OR
create a new one with a (1) after the name with "overwrite tex"

Actual Result:
A tiddler with the same title as today's journal is opened whose content is
"overwrite text". If this is saved, it will overwrite your journal entry!
If this is instead discarded, you get back your original journal entry.

I believe this is a bug?

Diego
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Yes, it was fixed. Just tested it with the standard 5.1.15 tiddlywiki.
Thank you.
/Mike
Post by Jeremy Ruston
I think the problem in the original post is fixed in 5.1.15.
Best wishes
Jeremy
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I'm not on Github.. I just figured the "New journal here"-button actually
does opens a journal tiddler allready created with a same date. However, in
that case it doesn't add the label of the 2nd tiddles it is opened from.
neither it autosaves on confirming.
Post by Rob Hoelz
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when
there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal
entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same
name exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup
on saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Diego,

In my test Wiki the default new journal twice opens the existing one and
retains the content.

I have followed the create new Journal button instructions before and found
it cumbersome.

Now I use my own macro; eg

\define todayentry()
<$button tooltip="Create or Open Today entry">
{{$:/core/images/new-journal-button}}
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<<now YYYY-0MM-0DD>>
tags="Journal">>" />
\end

You can make this as sophisticated as you want.

Regards
Tony

<<todayentry>>
Post by Diego Mesa
Hey all,
I figured out what my issue has been all along. This issue can be seen
1. Go to tiddlywiki.com, and create a new journal entry (using the
button, or manually) and type in "Test journal entry text" and save.
2. Open the shadow tiddler: $:/config/NewJournal/Text and type: "overwrite
text" and save.
3. Press the new journal button again
Pressing this button should open the already existing journal entry, OR
create a new one with a (1) after the name with "overwrite tex"
A tiddler with the same title as today's journal is opened whose content
is "overwrite text". If this is saved, it will overwrite your journal
entry! If this is instead discarded, you get back your original journal
entry.
I believe this is a bug?
Diego
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Yes, it was fixed. Just tested it with the standard 5.1.15 tiddlywiki.
Thank you.
/Mike
Post by Jeremy Ruston
I think the problem in the original post is fixed in 5.1.15.
Best wishes
Jeremy
--
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https://jermolene.com
I'm not on Github.. I just figured the "New journal here"-button
actually does opens a journal tiddler allready created with a same date.
However, in that case it doesn't add the label of the 2nd tiddles it is
opened from. neither it autosaves on confirming.
Post by Rob Hoelz
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button
when there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal
entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same
name exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup
on saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Hey Tony,

Sorry I'm not sure what you mean about retaining the text? I agree that
hitting that button will just open the existing tiddler in edit mode. The
crucial step in my "bug report" above is step 2 where you add text to
$:/config/NewJournal/Text
Post by TonyM
Diego,
In my test Wiki the default new journal twice opens the existing one and
retains the content.
I have followed the create new Journal button instructions before and
found it cumbersome.
Now I use my own macro; eg
\define todayentry()
<$button tooltip="Create or Open Today entry">
{{$:/core/images/new-journal-button}}
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<<now YYYY-0MM-0DD>>
tags="Journal">>" />
\end
You can make this as sophisticated as you want.
Regards
Tony
<<todayentry>>
Post by Diego Mesa
Hey all,
I figured out what my issue has been all along. This issue can be seen
1. Go to tiddlywiki.com, and create a new journal entry (using the
button, or manually) and type in "Test journal entry text" and save.
"overwrite text" and save.
3. Press the new journal button again
Pressing this button should open the already existing journal entry, OR
create a new one with a (1) after the name with "overwrite tex"
A tiddler with the same title as today's journal is opened whose content
is "overwrite text". If this is saved, it will overwrite your journal
entry! If this is instead discarded, you get back your original journal
entry.
I believe this is a bug?
Diego
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Yes, it was fixed. Just tested it with the standard 5.1.15 tiddlywiki.
Thank you.
/Mike
Post by Jeremy Ruston
I think the problem in the original post is fixed in 5.1.15.
Best wishes
Jeremy
--
Jeremy Ruston
https://jermolene.com
I'm not on Github.. I just figured the "New journal here"-button
actually does opens a journal tiddler allready created with a same date.
However, in that case it doesn't add the label of the 2nd tiddles it is
opened from. neither it autosaves on confirming.
Post by Rob Hoelz
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button
when there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal
entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same
name exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup
on saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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I understand,

Whilst it is a bug, it is also doing as asked, by having no text it was
"open[ing] the existing tiddler in edit mode" for me an no problems as a
result.

My point is I have abandoned the New Journal button and created my own for
total control. Not only is it a work around but possibly a better solution
all together.

If this is out of topic, sorry, just trying to add to the conversation.
Should it help.

It is not always possible to keep track of the expertise level of every
contributor.

Regards
Tony
Post by Diego Mesa
Hey Tony,
Sorry I'm not sure what you mean about retaining the text? I agree that
hitting that button will just open the existing tiddler in edit mode. The
crucial step in my "bug report" above is step 2 where you add text to
$:/config/NewJournal/Text
Post by TonyM
Diego,
In my test Wiki the default new journal twice opens the existing one and
retains the content.
I have followed the create new Journal button instructions before and
found it cumbersome.
Now I use my own macro; eg
\define todayentry()
<$button tooltip="Create or Open Today entry">
{{$:/core/images/new-journal-button}}
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<<now YYYY-0MM-0DD>>
tags="Journal">>" />
\end
You can make this as sophisticated as you want.
Regards
Tony
<<todayentry>>
Post by Diego Mesa
Hey all,
I figured out what my issue has been all along. This issue can be seen
1. Go to tiddlywiki.com, and create a new journal entry (using the
button, or manually) and type in "Test journal entry text" and save.
"overwrite text" and save.
3. Press the new journal button again
Pressing this button should open the already existing journal entry, OR
create a new one with a (1) after the name with "overwrite tex"
A tiddler with the same title as today's journal is opened whose content
is "overwrite text". If this is saved, it will overwrite your journal
entry! If this is instead discarded, you get back your original journal
entry.
I believe this is a bug?
Diego
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Yes, it was fixed. Just tested it with the standard 5.1.15 tiddlywiki.
Thank you.
/Mike
Post by Jeremy Ruston
I think the problem in the original post is fixed in 5.1.15.
Best wishes
Jeremy
--
Jeremy Ruston
https://jermolene.com
I'm not on Github.. I just figured the "New journal here"-button
actually does opens a journal tiddler allready created with a same date.
However, in that case it doesn't add the label of the 2nd tiddles it is
opened from. neither it autosaves on confirming.
Post by Rob Hoelz
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ec0fa2f9322346ec405b90356de03c66ae30cc0d#diff-e68644c29044cf78dbb9b3ec6f30948e>
-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button
when there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal
entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same
name exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup
on saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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Diego Mesa
2017-12-01 01:54:52 UTC
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Thanks for clarifying Tony! I just wanst sure if you were able to replicate
my steps I've had some trouble on here in the past with that.

I too am frustrated by it, and very much appreciate your suggestion of
bypassing it all together!
Post by TonyM
I understand,
Whilst it is a bug, it is also doing as asked, by having no text it was
"open[ing] the existing tiddler in edit mode" for me an no problems as a
result.
My point is I have abandoned the New Journal button and created my own for
total control. Not only is it a work around but possibly a better solution
all together.
If this is out of topic, sorry, just trying to add to the conversation.
Should it help.
It is not always possible to keep track of the expertise level of every
contributor.
Regards
Tony
Post by Diego Mesa
Hey Tony,
Sorry I'm not sure what you mean about retaining the text? I agree that
hitting that button will just open the existing tiddler in edit mode. The
crucial step in my "bug report" above is step 2 where you add text to
$:/config/NewJournal/Text
Post by TonyM
Diego,
In my test Wiki the default new journal twice opens the existing one and
retains the content.
I have followed the create new Journal button instructions before and
found it cumbersome.
Now I use my own macro; eg
\define todayentry()
<$button tooltip="Create or Open Today entry">
{{$:/core/images/new-journal-button}}
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<<now
YYYY-0MM-0DD>> tags="Journal">>" />
\end
You can make this as sophisticated as you want.
Regards
Tony
<<todayentry>>
Post by Diego Mesa
Hey all,
I figured out what my issue has been all along. This issue can be seen
1. Go to tiddlywiki.com, and create a new journal entry (using the
button, or manually) and type in "Test journal entry text" and save.
"overwrite text" and save.
3. Press the new journal button again
Pressing this button should open the already existing journal entry, OR
create a new one with a (1) after the name with "overwrite tex"
A tiddler with the same title as today's journal is opened whose
content is "overwrite text". If this is saved, it will overwrite your
journal entry! If this is instead discarded, you get back your original
journal entry.
I believe this is a bug?
Diego
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Yes, it was fixed. Just tested it with the standard 5.1.15 tiddlywiki.
Thank you.
/Mike
Post by Jeremy Ruston
I think the problem in the original post is fixed in 5.1.15.
Best wishes
Jeremy
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I'm not on Github.. I just figured the "New journal here"-button
actually does opens a journal tiddler allready created with a same date.
However, in that case it doesn't add the label of the 2nd tiddles it is
opened from. neither it autosaves on confirming.
Post by Rob Hoelz
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid
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-Rob
Post by Mat
Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?
<:-)
Post by Michael Wiktowy
Greetings all,
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button
when there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another
journal entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new
journal tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a
new Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same
name exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup
on saving.
Thanks,
/Mike
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