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[tw] [TW5] Plugins Updated: ToDoNow and Listreveal
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Thomas Elmiger
2017-05-13 18:15:15 UTC
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Hi all

With enormous gratitude for inspiring users like *Mark S.* and *Josiah*
(aka @TiddlyTweeter) who contributed many ideas and testing: My plugins are
updated (and still worked in my first test).
*Warning: only tested with TW 5.1.14!*

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*ToDoNow*
My helper to get things done got several new features, optimisations and
enhancements:

* reordered icons in ToDo lists
** first deadline (if available by kixam-plugin), then priority
* archive tasks to get them out of the lists
** new button in ToDoDone list
** new tiddler ToDoArchive with keyword and tag search
* deadline handling improved
** new set of icons
** delete deadline (hover over date)
* view template to show ToDo info on all relevant tiddlers (single view)
* tag and priority changes don’t affect modified timestamp (TW 5.1.14)
* new empty message for ToDoNow section
* bugs fixed on Work-Report (now part of the plugin)
* better readme documentation and examples (see this link
<https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2FControlPanel:ToDoNow%20%24%3A%2FControlPanel>
)

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*Listreveal*
My tool for listing tiddlers got some updated button macros and CSS – no
big deal.

===

*As always: remember to back up your wikis before you try my stuff.*

You can find the plugins here:
http://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#Get%20More%20Plugins – feedback ist highly
appreciated!

(There are still some ideas from Josiah and Mark on my consideration list,
but please don’t hold your comments back.)

Happy doing and have a nice weekend!
Thomas
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Thomas Elmiger
2017-05-14 05:31:28 UTC
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I just realized that the demo ToDo list might be hard to find when coming from my links above – it’s here: https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#ToDoNow

Have fun!
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2017-05-14 12:01:24 UTC
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Ciao Thomas

I went back, for a moment, to trying to think *what do I need know upfront
as a naive new user of ToDoNow?*

I think its knowing upfront what its main functional units are ...

- ToDoNow main
- Work Reporting
- ToDoArchive

Blessings on your keeping on refining this great tool!
Josiah
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I just realized that the demo ToDo list might be hard to find when coming
from my links above – it’s here: https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#ToDoNow
Have fun!
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'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
2017-05-14 16:14:46 UTC
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Great stuff, Thomas!

For my own use, I really need a way to hide away much of the "waiting
list". Perhaps other people do not collect large number of "pending"
activities. Well, that's why I need a todo list. I've slipped in code to
let me hide a certain priority (priority "W" for wait, in my case).
Eventually I would like to be able specify a filter to insert so that I
don't see "M" (Maybe someday) and "P" (Pending other resources).

Thanks!
Mark
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I just realized that the demo ToDo list might be hard to find when coming
from my links above – it’s here: https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#ToDoNow
Have fun!
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Thomas Elmiger
2017-05-14 17:59:24 UTC
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Thank you Mark!

Would you paste your code and maybe a screenshot of your interface, so I can get a betrer understanding of your extension?

(I don’t need this at the moment, but your wish is on my consideration list.)

The fact that you found a solution to adapt the tool to your needs is a proof of TiddlyWiki’s flexibility. But of course I would like to see your solution too.

All the best,
Thomas
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Thomas Elmiger
2017-05-16 21:15:40 UTC
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Dear Mark and Josiah

Everything is possible – let’s see if it is useful! Your wishes have been
integreated in the newest, most beautiful and best ever ToDoNow and
Listreveal plugins :–D

Mark, you can activate your personal filter and a new button for the
user-filter on a tab in the plugin details of ToDoNow or directly on the
new tiddler here:
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Ftodonow%2Fuser-filter
– maybe you would not need the instructions but I hope they will be useful
for other people. *It is recommended to close ToDoNow while editing filters
(else you will jump to the results after every character you type). If
anyone could give me a hint how to fix this that would be great!*

Happy testing, let me know if this works for you!
Thomas
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For my own use, I really need a way to hide away much of the "waiting
list". Perhaps other people do not collect large number of "pending"
activities. Well, that's why I need a todo list. I've slipped in code to
let me hide a certain priority (priority "W" for wait, in my case).
Eventually I would like to be able specify a filter to insert so that I
don't see "M" (Maybe someday) and "P" (Pending other resources).
A request that items on the ToDoArchive page have a DELETE button, so you
don't have to open them to delete them.
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'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
2017-05-16 22:34:05 UTC
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Hi Thomas,

I had been working on my own method of inserting a filter, but this is
better!

Now all I need are smart tiddlers that will do the tasks for me ...

Thanks!
Mark
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Dear Mark and Josiah
Everything is possible – let’s see if it is useful! Your wishes have been
integreated in the newest, most beautiful and best ever ToDoNow and
Listreveal plugins :–D
Mark, you can activate your personal filter and a new button for the
user-filter on a tab in the plugin details of ToDoNow or directly on the
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Ftodonow%2Fuser-filter
– maybe you would not need the instructions but I hope they will be useful
for other people. *It is recommended to close ToDoNow while editing
filters (else you will jump to the results after every character you type).
If anyone could give me a hint how to fix this that would be great!*
Happy testing, let me know if this works for you!
Thomas
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For my own use, I really need a way to hide away much of the "waiting
list". Perhaps other people do not collect large number of "pending"
activities. Well, that's why I need a todo list. I've slipped in code to
let me hide a certain priority (priority "W" for wait, in my case).
Eventually I would like to be able specify a filter to insert so that I
don't see "M" (Maybe someday) and "P" (Pending other resources).
A request that items on the ToDoArchive page have a DELETE button, so
you don't have to open them to delete them.
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2017-05-20 08:13:45 UTC
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Ciao Thomas

Small suggestions to make using this a bit easier for beginners ...

Maybe ADD links at the bottom of ToDoNow tiddler to ... (a) ToDoArchive and
(b) Work-Report?

Why?

Because at the moment its maybe not entirely clear how to get to them.
I guess this is because they are part of the plugin.
Please note they do NOT appear in the normal search despite having normal
titles ...


Best wishes
Josiah
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Dear Mark and Josiah
Everything is possible – let’s see if it is useful! Your wishes have been
integreated in the newest, most beautiful and best ever ToDoNow and
Listreveal plugins :–D
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2017-05-14 12:24:49 UTC
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Ciao Thomas

Great that the Work Report is now working without that weird problem with
entering the days!

There is what looks like a weird BUG. I tested as follows ...

1 - Downloaded your plugins Tiddlywiki
2 - Created a new ToDo Tiddler via the Green "+". It looks like this ...



3 - Click the checkbox on the left with the "Green Tick" and you get this
...



Best wishes
Josiah
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Thomas Elmiger
2017-05-14 13:22:43 UTC
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Ciao Josiah,

Thank you very much for this bug report! It is fixed now.
(I reuse a function originally designed for tiddlers tagged "ToDoNow" also
for "ToDo" – but it didn’t remove the ToDo tag 
)

The update also includes a new *try-out* tab in the plugin info, so a demo
is always available.

Cheers,
Thomas
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2017-05-14 14:06:29 UTC
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Ciao Thomas

Great stuff. Thanks!

One small comment on the Checklist Plugin. Its been updated several times.
Its now up to v 0.0.13. Its now got some simple configuration options. See: Grosinger's
Checklist Plugin <https://grosinger.net/tw5-checklist/#HelloThere>.

That plugin works really well with ToDoNow. I similarly appreciate its
minimalism.

Best wishes
Josiah
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It is fixed now.
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2017-05-15 14:16:13 UTC
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Ciao Thomas

A request that items on the ToDoArchive page have a DELETE button, so don't
have to open them to delete them.

Best wishes
Josiah
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*ToDoNow*
My helper to get things done got several new features, optimisations and
** new tiddler ToDoArchive with keyword and tag search
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2017-05-22 11:46:17 UTC
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Ciao Thomas

There is still a bug in the Work-Report.

Try this ...

1. Create a new normal tiddler with no tags;
2. Open Work-Report and set "days back" to "1", and set projects to "all
projects";



*The Tiddler just created appears on the report, but it shouldn't, it's not
in ToDoNow.*


Best wishes
Josiah
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* bugs fixed on Work-Report (now part of the plugin)
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2017-05-22 12:17:50 UTC
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Ciao Thomas

I get where you are coming from but transposed to my situation where I need
an ALL PROJECT report that is NOTHING BUT explicit ToDoNow projects it
produces chaos :-). To give an example: in this screenshot items in yellow
should NOT be on it for my use ...

Buongiorno
Josiah
Not sure this is a bug – you have been working on that tiddler and it’s
not excluded by your choice of project ;–)
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Juan Palomo
2017-06-21 08:38:40 UTC
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Hi Thomas!!!

ToDoNow is incredible, your add-on is cool, simple and effective.

I only have one suggestion to improve its usability. You should have a
button to assign the category the same way you assign a deadline or task
priority.

Greetings.
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Thomas Elmiger
2017-06-21 09:50:15 UTC
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Hi Juan

Did you notice the tag icon in the top left corner of open tasks? It allows
to assign tags based on all tasks in the list as well as to remove a tag
with a click.
See pic.

Happy Do-ing!
Thomas

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2017-06-21 11:12:05 UTC
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Hi Thomas !!!

Thanks for the reply. I have seen what you have indicated and I have found
that the tags use them to classify the different projects in which you want
to differentiate the tasks. Perfect.
What happens is that the BarChart plugin uses a field called category in
the tiddler to be able to show the progress of the organized tasks in the
different categories. That's what I mean. The two add-ons use different
ways of organizing tasks, I think ...

Greetings.

El miércoles, 21 de junio de 2017, 11:50:15 (UTC+2), Thomas Elmiger
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Hi Juan
Did you notice the tag icon in the top left corner of open tasks? It
allows to assign tags based on all tasks in the list as well as to remove a
tag with a click.
See pic.
Happy Do-ing!
Thomas
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2017-06-21 20:19:45 UTC
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Hi Juan

It seems to me, that Jed’s Bar Charts work perfectly with only tags: With
the predefined tags in ToDoNow you would use something like

<$ProgressBar finished="[tag[YourCategoryTag]tag[ToDoDone]]"
unfinished='"[tag[YourCategoryTag]!tag[ToDo]]" colors="#bf9,#fbb"/>/>

as in the first example here: https://ooktech.com/TiddlyWiki/BarChart/#Demo

Have fun!
Thomas
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2017-06-22 08:39:08 UTC
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Hi Thomas.

Thanks for everything, I had tried it the way you indicated but it did not
work. But I've reviewed the syntax again and got it to work.

Best regards.


El miércoles, 21 de junio de 2017, 22:19:46 (UTC+2), Thomas Elmiger
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Hi Juan
It seems to me, that Jed’s Bar Charts work perfectly with only tags: With
the predefined tags in ToDoNow you would use something like
<$ProgressBar finished="[tag[YourCategoryTag]tag[ToDoDone]]"
unfinished='"[tag[YourCategoryTag]!tag[ToDo]]" colors="#bf9,#fbb"/>/>
https://ooktech.com/TiddlyWiki/BarChart/#Demo
Have fun!
Thomas
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Thomas Elmiger
2017-06-22 13:58:21 UTC
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Hi Juan

Good to hear. I can see now, there was an error in my example – I should have removed the !

Thank you for using ToDoNow and for posting your issues. It is always interesting to read how people use my stuff.

Cheers,
Thomas
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2017-05-22 13:40:14 UTC
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Ciao Thomas

This plugin has helped me tremendously ...

I have a few additional ideas & comments. These are more likely "luxury
tweaks" than essentials :-).

1 - Creating new ToDo items via the Green + ...

... could it be done via a MODAL? The reason is that the ToDoNow list is
one's basic orientater. I think that items created from it would be best in
the kind of overlay that modals provide. It keeps you "closer" to that
essential ToDoNow Tiddler.

2 - Maybe also use MODALS for full Tiddler viewing too for any ToDoNow item?

3 - On the new EXTRA FILTER mechanism at: "Personal Filter"
<https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Ftodonow%2Fuser-filter>.
Could you add a note to the documentation to cover the case of "exclude all
tiddlers tagged XXX". *That is likely the single most useful persistently
needed exclusion filter*.

To give a use case: I have lots of ToDo Tiddlers tagged "LongDates" that
manage long term payments, birthdays, contract renewals etc. I need to
track them but not see them everyday. Excluding them from normal viewing in
ToDo removes a lot of clutter.

4 - More on the EXTRA FILTER that shows up as active via this ...

Could the button be made to TOGGLE in the main ToDoNow Tiddler? So that
clicking it would alternate between: Extra Filter Applied / Extra Filter
Removed?

5 - More on the EXTRA FILTER. Could the graphic used for it better suggest
that a Personal Filter is in operation? Maybe one of these kind of symbols
... Maybe with a "plus" sign in it?



Very best wishes
Josiah
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Hi Josiah!!!

I have seen that you have managed to integrate the TodoNow plugin together with the Barchart plugin. The truth is that it's something I've been looking for for a long time.
Could you tell us how you got it ???

Greetings.
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Ciao Thomas
This plugin has helped me tremendously ...
I have a few additional ideas & comments. These are more likely "luxury
tweaks" than essentials :-).
1 - Creating new ToDo items via the Green + ...
... could it be done via a MODAL? The reason is that the ToDoNow list is
one's basic orientater. I think that items created from it would be best in
the kind of overlay that modals provide. It keeps you "closer" to that
essential ToDoNow Tiddler.
2 - Maybe also use MODALS for full Tiddler viewing too for any ToDoNow item?
3 - On the new EXTRA FILTER mechanism at: "Personal Filter"
<https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Ftodonow%2Fuser-filter>.
Could you add a note to the documentation to cover the case of "exclude all
tiddlers tagged XXX". *That is likely the single most useful persistently
needed exclusion filter*.
To give a use case: I have lots of ToDo Tiddlers tagged "LongDates" that
manage long term payments, birthdays, contract renewals etc. I need to
track them but not see them everyday. Excluding them from normal viewing
in ToDo removes a lot of clutter.
4 - More on the EXTRA FILTER that shows up as active via this ...
Could the button be made to TOGGLE in the main ToDoNow Tiddler? So that
clicking it would alternate between: Extra Filter Applied / Extra Filter
Removed?
5 - More on the EXTRA FILTER. Could the graphic used for it better suggest
that a Personal Filter is in operation? Maybe one of these kind of symbols
... Maybe with a "plus" sign in it when active?
Very best wishes
Josiah
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Palomo is a beautiful name!

The link for Jed's Bar Chart is here
http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/BarChart/

In my wiki I created it inside a table and put it into a tab.

See how you get on. The good thing about it is shows you what it is doing.
Its a great tool.

Here is the heart of it:
http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/BarChart/#Bar%20Chart%20Creator

Josiah
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Hi Josiah!!!
I have seen that you have managed to integrate the TodoNow plugin together with the Barchart plugin. The truth is that it's something I've been looking for for a long time.
Could you tell us how you got it ???
Greetings.
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Hi Josiah!!!

Yes, the name is interesting. Hahaha...

I have already managed to do something similar to what you have, but I
still have . The truth is that it is a good combination of complements,
this is the greatness of Tiddlywiki.

Greetings.
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Palomo is a beautiful name!
The link for Jed's Bar Chart is here
http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/BarChart/
In my wiki I created it inside a table and put it into a tab.
See how you get on. The good thing about it is shows you what it is doing.
Its a great tool.
http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/BarChart/#Bar%20Chart%20Creator
Josiah
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Hi Josiah!!!
I have seen that you have managed to integrate the TodoNow plugin together with the Barchart plugin. The truth is that it's something I've been looking for for a long time.
Could you tell us how you got it ???
Greetings.
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I am glad someone is using my stuff. Just as a quick note you should
probably use this site as the source
https://ooktech.com/TiddlyWiki/BarChart/

The sites under ooktech.com/jed are where I do development and experiments
and may be broken, the sites under ooktech.com/TiddlyWiki are the stable
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Hi Jed!!!

I'm happy to use your add-on, it's a great idea, and from here I thank you
for it.

Grretings.
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I am glad someone is using my stuff. Just as a quick note you should
probably use this site as the source
https://ooktech.com/TiddlyWiki/BarChart/
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Hi Arkady

Thank you very much for writing down all these interesting thoughts and
linking to relevant concepts! And sorry for the long time it took me to
write an answer.

Have you tried http://cardo.wiki/ ? It is one of the most feature rich
TW-based solutions I know of.

Maybe GTD is an acronym aiming too high for my simple tool. I have no plans
to extend it any further at the moment and I wanted to keep it simple and
intuitive even for beginners from the very beginning. Something between
simple ToDo lists and real GTD systems was missing in my eyes, so I built
it. If I would start today I would look at the trello-ish solutions as
alternatives.

Concerning your questions:

To hide items you won’t or can’t work on, you can use tags or priorities. A
simple tag filter is always present, but there is also a personal filter
you could use to filter out certain priorities. Have a look at the
user-filter tab of the plugin, you will find filter examples there.

I did not have the time to try, but I am pretty sure it would be possible
to eliminate tasks due more than a given number of days from now this way.

For recurring tasks I personally just set a new date when one is done, this
way I can take weekends and local holidays into account. By the way: If you
check done, reactivate the task and check done again, both done-dates are
registered in the tiddler.

Last but not least: No, I do no intend to add more features. My ambition is
to improve existing features and usability. Feel free to add all the
features you like and please keep me updated if you do so.

All the best and happy do-ing!
Thomas
Hi, Thomas,
Great plugin. I'm always on the look for a good task management
application. I have tried dozens of them.
What I value most is the ability to hide items that cannot be done now.
GTD uses "contexts" for this purpose. I suppose a "context" is just a
tag. I can use some special character for tags denoting contexts
your system can accommodate that. But there are two other conditions that
1. Task dependencies. I'd like the ability to hide tasks that cannot be
started before another task is completed. And when the blocking task is
completed, the blocked task should become "active" and show up in the
lists. It helps to unclutter the lists tremendously. Very few otherwise
excellent task management applications allow that.
http://orgmode.org/manual/TODO-dependencies.html
2. The ability to postpone tasks. Some tasks cannot be started until some
future time. I'd like to have the ability to set this time and hide the
task from the list until that time. Emacs Org Mode uses "SCHEDULED"
attribute for that. Some implementations of todo.txt call it "threshold".
I use this feature most frequently for recurring tasks. E.g. if I just
mowed my lawn, I don't want to see it on my list again sooner than in 2
weeks. And for daily items that need to be done each evening, for example,
having a timestamp is critical to hide items until "6pm", for example. GTD
uses the concept of "tickler" for this. In Monkey GTD which I used for a
while many years ago, tasks could be converted into "ticklers". But I find
it unnecessary since this, imo, is just a task attribute.
http://orgmode.org/manual/Deadlines-and-scheduling.html
You do have reminders, but this is not quite the same thing. They don't
seem to hide tasks until a certain time.
Another important feature is task recurrence - the ability to regenerate
the task with due dates and threshold dates in the future. The best
implementation of this I found in Emacs Org Mode. They have 3 kinds of
1. Recurring in a certain interval after the previous due date. These are
good for things like paying bills or filing tax returns. Org Mode uses
"+1w" syntax for those.
2. Recurring in a certain interval after the last completion date. These
are good for things like mowing the lawn or having a haircut. Org Mode
uses ".+1w" syntax for those
3. Recurring on a certain date, after "now". This is good for catching up
on delinquent tasks. E.g. if I have to send weekly reports on Fridays and
forgot to mark it "done" for a whole month, I want the task to recur on the
next Friday rather than having to mark the task "Done" 4 times incrementing
the due date by a week. Org Mode uses "++1w" syntax for those.
http://orgmode.org/manual/Repeated-tasks.html
Do you have any ideas on how to implement these concepts with your plugin?
Thanks.
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Hi all
With enormous gratitude for inspiring users like *Mark S.* and *Josiah*
updated (and still worked in my first test).
*Warning: only tested with TW 5.1.14!*
===
*ToDoNow*
My helper to get things done got several new features, optimisations and
* reordered icons in ToDo lists
** first deadline (if available by kixam-plugin), then priority
* archive tasks to get them out of the lists
** new button in ToDoDone list
** new tiddler ToDoArchive with keyword and tag search
* deadline handling improved
** new set of icons
** delete deadline (hover over date)
* view template to show ToDo info on all relevant tiddlers (single view)
* tag and priority changes don’t affect modified timestamp (TW 5.1.14)
* new empty message for ToDoNow section
* bugs fixed on Work-Report (now part of the plugin)
* better readme documentation and examples (see this link
<https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2FControlPanel:ToDoNow%20%24%3A%2FControlPanel>
)
===
*Listreveal*
My tool for listing tiddlers got some updated button macros and CSS – no
big deal.
===
*As always: remember to back up your wikis before you try my stuff.*
http://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#Get%20More%20Plugins – feedback ist
highly appreciated!
(There are still some ideas from Josiah and Mark on my consideration
list, but please don’t hold your comments back.)
Happy doing and have a nice weekend!
Thomas
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Ciao cari Arkady & Thomas,

I have been using Thomas' ToDoNow a long time. I'm still using it. It works.

Why do I like it? Honed Minimalism. GTD systems got OVER-complex for one
person only able to do one thing at a time. Thomas went back to HIS basics
and found something workable.

It is a very, very good PERSONAL To Do System. It is NOT a collaborative
PROJECT Manager and was never meant to be one. It has limited aims but
within those its really stellar.

Regarding hiding stuff you don't want to see the Custom Filter mechanism
that goes a long way to helping you with that but if its not enough, as
Thomas suggests, I'd look at CARDO.

Best wishes
Josiah
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Hi Arkady
Thank you very much for writing down all these interesting thoughts and
linking to relevant concepts! And sorry for the long time it took me to
write an answer.
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For what it's worth, here's the code I insert into the filter plugin to
allow me to have selectable filters:

<!-- MAS SELECTION CODE HERE -->
<$select tiddler="$:/temp/tdn/user-filter" default='General Usage'>
<$list filter='[tag[Filter]sort[title]]'>
<option value={{!!text}}><$view field='caption'/></option>
</$list>
</$select>
<!-- MAS END SELECTION CODE HERE -->

It gets inserted below <$vars uf=...

Each filter tiddler is tagged 'Filter', has a caption field to describe it,
and the filter content goes in the text field.

My flow is that usually first thing in the morning I reset used tiddlers,
check items due for the day, and use various filters to look at things that
are in waiting mode and move them into the task list for the day. Some
tasks that are for late in the day are given a priority for later, and
hidden away until needed. Having a drop-down filter makes this moving back
and forth simpler.

Mark
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Hi Arkady
Thank you very much for writing down all these interesting thoughts and
linking to relevant concepts! And sorry for the long time it took me to
write an answer.
Have you tried http://cardo.wiki/ ? It is one of the most feature rich
TW-based solutions I know of.
Maybe GTD is an acronym aiming too high for my simple tool. I have no
plans to extend it any further at the moment and I wanted to keep it simple
and intuitive even for beginners from the very beginning. Something between
simple ToDo lists and real GTD systems was missing in my eyes, so I built
it. If I would start today I would look at the trello-ish solutions as
alternatives.
To hide items you won’t or can’t work on, you can use tags or priorities.
A simple tag filter is always present, but there is also a personal filter
you could use to filter out certain priorities. Have a look at the
user-filter tab of the plugin, you will find filter examples there.
I did not have the time to try, but I am pretty sure it would be possible
to eliminate tasks due more than a given number of days from now this way.
For recurring tasks I personally just set a new date when one is done,
If you check done, reactivate the task and check done again, both
done-dates are registered in the tiddler.
Last but not least: No, I do no intend to add more features. My ambition
is to improve existing features and usability. Feel free to add all the
features you like and please keep me updated if you do so.
All the best and happy do-ing!
Thomas
Hi, Thomas,
Great plugin. I'm always on the look for a good task management
application. I have tried dozens of them.
What I value most is the ability to hide items that cannot be done now.
GTD uses "contexts" for this purpose. I suppose a "context" is just a
tag. I can use some special character for tags denoting contexts
your system can accommodate that. But there are two other conditions that
1. Task dependencies. I'd like the ability to hide tasks that cannot be
started before another task is completed. And when the blocking task is
completed, the blocked task should become "active" and show up in the
lists. It helps to unclutter the lists tremendously. Very few otherwise
excellent task management applications allow that.
http://orgmode.org/manual/TODO-dependencies.html
2. The ability to postpone tasks. Some tasks cannot be started until
some future time. I'd like to have the ability to set this time and hide
the task from the list until that time. Emacs Org Mode uses "SCHEDULED"
attribute for that. Some implementations of todo.txt call it "threshold".
I use this feature most frequently for recurring tasks. E.g. if I just
mowed my lawn, I don't want to see it on my list again sooner than in 2
weeks. And for daily items that need to be done each evening, for example,
having a timestamp is critical to hide items until "6pm", for example. GTD
uses the concept of "tickler" for this. In Monkey GTD which I used for a
while many years ago, tasks could be converted into "ticklers". But I find
it unnecessary since this, imo, is just a task attribute.
http://orgmode.org/manual/Deadlines-and-scheduling.html
You do have reminders, but this is not quite the same thing. They don't
seem to hide tasks until a certain time.
Another important feature is task recurrence - the ability to regenerate
the task with due dates and threshold dates in the future. The best
implementation of this I found in Emacs Org Mode. They have 3 kinds of
1. Recurring in a certain interval after the previous due date. These
are good for things like paying bills or filing tax returns. Org Mode uses
"+1w" syntax for those.
2. Recurring in a certain interval after the last completion date. These
are good for things like mowing the lawn or having a haircut. Org Mode
uses ".+1w" syntax for those
3. Recurring on a certain date, after "now". This is good for catching
up on delinquent tasks. E.g. if I have to send weekly reports on Fridays
and forgot to mark it "done" for a whole month, I want the task to recur on
the next Friday rather than having to mark the task "Done" 4 times
incrementing the due date by a week. Org Mode uses "++1w" syntax for those.
http://orgmode.org/manual/Repeated-tasks.html
Do you have any ideas on how to implement these concepts with your plugin?
Thanks.
Post by Thomas Elmiger
Hi all
With enormous gratitude for inspiring users like *Mark S.* and *Josiah*
updated (and still worked in my first test).
*Warning: only tested with TW 5.1.14!*
===
*ToDoNow*
My helper to get things done got several new features, optimisations and
* reordered icons in ToDo lists
** first deadline (if available by kixam-plugin), then priority
* archive tasks to get them out of the lists
** new button in ToDoDone list
** new tiddler ToDoArchive with keyword and tag search
* deadline handling improved
** new set of icons
** delete deadline (hover over date)
* view template to show ToDo info on all relevant tiddlers (single view)
* tag and priority changes don’t affect modified timestamp (TW 5.1.14)
* new empty message for ToDoNow section
* bugs fixed on Work-Report (now part of the plugin)
* better readme documentation and examples (see this link
<https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2FControlPanel:ToDoNow%20%24%3A%2FControlPanel>
)
===
*Listreveal*
My tool for listing tiddlers got some updated button macros and CSS – no
big deal.
===
*As always: remember to back up your wikis before you try my stuff.*
http://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#Get%20More%20Plugins – feedback ist
highly appreciated!
(There are still some ideas from Josiah and Mark on my consideration
list, but please don’t hold your comments back.)
Happy doing and have a nice weekend!
Thomas
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Thanks for the reply, Thomas. I'll check out the cardo.wiki you pointed me
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When TW5 was in the beta stage Matabele created http://wills.tiddlyspot.com/ with
lots of ticklers.

I've always given op on complex systems. It takes longer time to learn to
know them - and to use them. Better get things done than keep all those
systems going.

With Thomas ToDoNow I finally got something I love to use. Better still my
friend started to use tiddlywiki to use ToDoNow.


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When TW5 was in the beta stage Matabele created
http://wills.tiddlyspot.com/ with lots of ticklers.
Thanks. I'll check it out.
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I've always given op on complex systems. It takes longer time to learn to
know them - and to use them. Better get things done than keep all those
systems going.
I totally agree. I love simplicity, but not at the expense of
functionality. You are right. It's more important to do things than to
get a system to track them. I'll stick with todo.txt for now. It's the
simplest you can get, yet it offers both dependencies and task delays. I'm
missing a good reference system and the beauty of TW, though.
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