Thanks for the tip, Tony. If your hot keys idea can be limited to one
might be an option. Leaving for a weeklong trip to teach a conference. Will
look at it when I have time. Blessings.
*Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
Post by TonyMDavid,
You could use a keystroke tool to get a key to "<newline>*<space>"
On windows I use Auto hot key, which is so powerful you may find your
malware alarms go off. You can assign complex keystrokes to "macros" and
keys.
Two "key" uses I put it to is
- My Numeric pads enter, now moves down a line and to the beginning of
the line (without enter) Great for inserting a character at the beginning
of lines with existing text
- I set the caps lock to behave as the shift key so I do not find
myself SHOUTING any more.
I think sometimes there is value solving problems outside a specific
application (eg; TiddlyWiki) because the solutions then apply to other
applications.
A firefox add in, before the changes called "Its All Text" allowed you to
open an editor of choice on any text field in the browser, I used to use
this to launch NotePadd++ and some other editors that had special features
such as SPFLite (desktop version of Mainframe editors) which has advanced
search and replace and column editing features. I am investigating a
replacement for "Its all text" now.
The point being rather than get your application (tiddlyWiki) to support
your specific need, leverage an editor that specialises in giving you tools
and macros to do what you want, you could even edit text documents that
later become tiddlers.
Not that this is for your use case, but it is worth keeping in mind.
Regards
Tony
Post by David GiffordOn second thought, scratch the idea about the enter key. That would
create problems for me when going back and editing later. I sometimes like
to have spaces between bullets in edit mode.
David Gifford
Mexico team leader, Mexico City
*Resonate Global Mission*
*Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
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Post by David GiffordAhh now I understand you.
Re-reading your posts in the morning helped me see what you are saying.
I think to restate my request in a simpler way, what I want is to
reassign the tab key to insert asterisks instead of whatever it does now in
TiddlyWiki. (or : or | but * has the advantage of already doing what I want
it to do).
In other words, I want to hit a tab key once, twice or more within a
line to add bullets rather than go back and select and hit editor buttons.
A second but less necessary tweak would be tweaking the enter key so
that it does a new line but also adds an asterisk. That way I could finish
a line, hit enter, and be on the next bullet point, then add additional
bullets with tab. If I wanted a line without a bullet I could just
backspace after using enter to start the new line.
Does this make sense?
David Gifford
Mexico team leader, Mexico City
*Resonate Global Mission*
*Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
resonateglobalmission.org
Post by TonyMDave,
I understand if you do not see where I am coming from, it is a slight
digression. But to me it solves the same problem by different means,
perhaps you have some preferences or unstated requirements my solution does
not help you with.
The point is one can highlight any piece of wiki text and add * : to
lines one or more times to indent bullets.
A value of this method is such lines act as paragraphs (ending with
enter not <br><br>) and wrap just the way we want. All that remains is to
do this without bold as in the ";" so we can precede every line with that
character and they behave as paragraphs. By having the same character also
indent one tab level after the first we we can simply add and remove that
character as desired.
In the following example I have also followed the ":" with a css class
and this works if you define .q and .a in a style sheet
;Hello
:.q Question
::.a answer
This means you could use css to insert an icon of your choice and other
styling.
The : and * will indent long the text correctly.
Mohammad also pointed out this tip
* One
* """ Two
This is a muliline item!
"""
* Third
But the multi-line can't contain More bullets.
Regards
Tony
Post by David GiffordHi Tony and Mat
Maybe I am not understanding you, Tony, but adding ; and : and | even
on the first line is no improvement over adding * before every line, and
there is a button to add * before every line.
On another note, when I just tried with text that spills over to the
next line, Mat's idea turns out not so good because the second line of the
paragraph stays left of the bullet.
Post by TonyMDavid,
Have you used in wiki text the ; semi-colon and : colon? Please bare
with me on this.
I do a lot, Here is an example to paste into a tiddler
;My Section
:Indented without bullets
::double indented without bullets
:::triple indented without bullets
The Colon acts as leading tabs
Of course the actual bullets work the same
*Indented without bullets
**double indented without bullets
***triple indented without bullets
But the reason I seem to be off topic is because I have crated a
EditorToolBar button that allows me to select multiple rows and add ":" to
the front of each line/paragraph,
This is enough for me to work with content similar to yours.
All I want now is a leading character like the ";" semi-colon that
does not bold its text but does cause the line to break at the end. Or
ideally a character that does both eg |
|here
||one indent
|||Two indent
here
one indent
two indent
Then toolbar buttons to add or remove "|" on multiple lines at a
time, and possible make the tab key insert | (at the beginning of the line)
in the editor.
Make sense?
Tony
Post by David GiffordHi all
Well I will be bold and ask - I don't even know if this can be done.
I remember there was a WYSIWYG plugin, but I stopped using it because it
prevented me from using the regular edit toolbar buttons.
What would be really cool is if there were a way to create a special
tiddler type that acts in a way that all new lines rendered as bullet
points, and all tabs rendered as indented bullet points. In other words,
bulleted lists that act as they do in Microsoft Word and outliner programs
like Dynalist and Workflowy.
Why? Because bulleted lists are quite common but always require
shift + 8 or the wrap button, but the wrap button doesn't take indented
bullets into account. And because many of us are used to the ease of
bullets in Word and outliner programs.
I say a tiddler type because obviously there would also be need for
regular tiddlers for tables and much more that wouldn't work that way.
Is this even possible? Some times I don't know if I am asking for
the moon or if my ideas are just a 15 minute spells concocted by the
wizards here.
Blessings
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